William Frame
and
Rebecca Marsh-Frame

By 3rd Great-Grandson Edward K. Hine, Jr. ("Ted")  -  First  Edition - July 2020


   William Frame

 Born:   June 29, 1776 in Chester County, PA
 Died:    February 10, 1842 in Poland, OH
 Cause of Death:   Unknown
 
Age at Death:   65
 Buried:   
Riverside Cemetery, Poland, Ohio

        
(GPS: NEAR N 41° 01.600’, W 080° 36.501’ - WGS84 Datum)

 Father:     David Frame (Bef. 1732- Aft. 1797)
 Mother:    Catherine Miller-Frame (1738- Bef. 1786)
 Siblings:  Jane Frame (1759- ?)
                  Benjamin Frame(1761-1832)
                  James Frame (1764-1833)
                  Rachel Frame-Mercer (1766- abt. 1850)
                  Thomas Frame(1768- ?)
                  David Frame (1771- ?)
                  Jesse Frame (1774-1826)
                  Sarah Frame (1779- ?)
                  Hannah Frame (1779
- ?)


Married:  February 20, 1802
 

Rebecca Marsh-Frame

Born:   October 22, 1775 (Possibly in New Jersey)
Died:   July 20, 1842 in Poland, OH
Cause of Death:   Unknown
Age at Death:   66
Buried: 
 Riverside Cemetery, Poland, Ohio
       
(GPS: NEAR N 41° 01.600’, W 080° 36.501’ - WGS84 Datum)
  
Father:      John (Rolph) Marsh
Mother:     Jannet
Siblings:   Lewis R. Marsh
                  Sidney Marsh

Children:  Mary Miller Frame (1802-1804)
                  Eliza Frame-Allen (1805-1896)
                  George M. Frame (1807- ?)
                  Ruthanna Lindley Frame-Kirtland (1809-1888)
                  Thomas Frame (1811-1873)
                  Jannet M. Frame-Allen (1812-1862)
                  William S. Frame (1814-1865)
                  Mary Marsh Frame-Meacham (1817-1893)
                  Rebecca Frame-Meacham (1818-1846)
                  Catherine Frame-Gilkey (1824-1899)

     

Introduction

What I've learned about the Frame family and particularly William and Rebecca has almost entirely come from information provided by my 3rd cousin Joanna Moore.  We both descend from William and Rebecca's daughter Ruthanna Frame-Kirtland who married Billius Kirtland.  We connected almost by accident.  In 2008 I'd visited my Hine/Kirtland family's ancestral home in Poland, OH and the current owner mentioned that someone else had recently visited who was somehow related and provided me with a name that I didn't recognize and an address in Delaware.  When I returned home I sent a letter to Joanna Moore asking if we were related.  I was pleasantly surprised to find that she and her mother had done considerable research into our Frame ancestors, something I'd so far learned little about.  We subsequently exchanged much information about our common ancestors.

Among the items Joanna sent me was a hard cover 238 page book titled "Some of the Descendents of David Frame-Fraim and his wife Catherine Miller" compiled by Julia Locke Frame Bunce and published in 1953.  Several copies were apparently passed on to Joanna by her mother so she had an extra.   I've created a file containing the portions of the book relevant to my Frame ancestors which I will refer to here as The Frame Book.    The book suggests that the name may have originally been spelled Fraim. View The Frame Book

The Frame Family in America

Thomas Frame (son of Lawrence Frame) was born in England in 1649 and sailed from Bristol, England around 1670 as an indentured servant.  He took up residence in Amesbury, Massachusetts where he married Mary Rowell.  Their son James Frame lived in Lancaster County, PA and Augusta County, VA.  His son David, born in Lancaster County, PA was the father of William Frame, the subject of this biography.  William was thus the 4th generation in America.

Joanna Moore provided me with a summary of the above early Frames.  See:  Descendents of Thomas Frame - 1
She also provided a longer list of Frame descendents she found on the internet: See: Descendents of Thomas Frame - 2

About William and Rebecca Marsh-Frame

William Frame was born on June 29, 1776 in Chester County, PA.  Rebecca was born October 22, 1775 possibly in New Jersey.  The were married February 20, 1802.

The best summary regarding William and Rebecca that I have is included in a letter written in Poland, OH by their daughter Mary Frame-Meacham in 1888 (at age 71) to and at the request of her niece Emma Kirtland-Hine (my great grandmother) and provided to me by Joanna Moore.  To view a typed transcription of the document titled "My Early Recollections" and scans of the original handwritten letter, click here:  My Early Recollections by Mary Frame-Meacham

Excerpts from the document's transcription regarding William and Rebecca Frame:

"William and Rebecca Frame [were] my parents.  There were nine children of us, 3 sons and 6 daughters.  Father was from Pennsylvania, brought [up] by an aunt, a Quaker preacher.  Ruthanna Linley was her name.  He married Rebecca Marsh of New Jersey.  Her father's name was John [Rolph] Marsh, his wife Janette.  I have heard Mother tell of her father and mother having hard times in the War of 1812.  My parents began life in New York.  He commenced in a grocery business" ..................... Regarding her mother: "The family was of Scotch descent.  Her father served in the Revolutionary War and claimed royal blood."

"I do not know how long they lived in New York , but they moved to Pennsylvania, and Father engaged in the milling business.  He was of Irish descent, and the children were all born in Chester County, Pennsylvania, and lived there many years."

"Now to go back to my childhood, my father left the milling business and opened a public house in Downingtown, Pennsylvania, on the Turnpike about 50 miles from Philadelphia.  He also kept the Post Office.  In the early days people traveled by stages, and their stopping place was at our house for dinner.  This was Downingtown.  We children were born there.  I remember well that they kept black help, and Father owned a boy named Black Bill.  The people were mostly Quakers.  My father was raised a Quaker, Mother Presbyterian.  I wish I could remember dates.  When I was 5 years old [about 1822] my parents moved to Maryland, Baltimore City, and kept a tavern, it was called then, and they have a sign called Golden Horse.  It was in the upper part of the city near Washington Monument.  We only stayed there two years and moved four miles out on the Turnpike road.  That seemed like the country, and we children enjoyed [it] and our folks kept a tavern or more of a boarding house for city people to comer for the summer.  Father was fond of flowers  and had a lovely zinnia garden.  Our neighbors owned slaves."

"After Father decided to move to Ohio the only way there was to come [was] by land.  He had a pair of big horses and fitted up a wagon to accommodate the family and bring bedstead and a few household things.  [We] had extra horses , but we children walked until we were tired.  We crossed the Allegheny Mountains."

The "Frame Book" (described above)  expands upon the above quotes as follows:

On page 193:

"The 'Recollections' of his daughter Mary Marsh (Frame) Meacham give us an interesting account of some of the experiences of the family (p 203.)  We learn that William and his wife began life together in New York City where William was engaged in the grocery business.  He did not remain there long, for in 1805 he was in Downington, Pa., proprietor of an Inn.  He also became the postmaster, the post office being located in the Inn.  According to his daughter all but the first of his ten children were born in Downington, Pa.  Sometime in 1823 or 1824, William Frame removed with his family to Baltimore, Md., and there became proprietor of another Inn, known as the "Golden Horse Tavern".  Another daughter, Eliza, by name, often told her grandchildren that Lafayette was there in 1824, also that she was invited to his 'Birthrite Ball' which was held on a boat in Baltimore harbor. She was 18 at the time."

"Two years later William moved to another Inn which was four miles from Baltimore and on the Post Road.  This location being in the country, attracted many of the Baltimoreans, who made extended stays at the Inn in order to escape the heat of the city."

"Still another move took the family to Ohio, where William's elder brother Benjamin Frame had settled, and there William and his wife spent the remainder of their lives."


Regarding Rebecca's parents:

"The will of Rolph Marsh of the Township of Rahway, Essex Co., N.J. is dated 22 Sept, 1804.  In it he mentions his wife Jannet.  To his daughter Rebecca Marsh Frame, wife of William Frame he leaves $500.00 'to be levied out of my estate and paid to her in one year after my decease, provide always and upon condition my said daughter Rebecca or her lawful representative makes or brings any charge against my estate or any account whatsoever.'  The executors were his sons Lewis R. and Sidney March.  The other children were not mentioned by name (Trenton, N.J. Court House)."

My great aunt Nell (Ellen Louise Hine) wrote in a manuscript regarding her ancestors around 1946: "Great Grandfather William Frame had kept a Hotel in Baltimore, Md., where LaFayette stopped, so when they reached Ohio and Grandmother saw they were to live in a log cabin she exclaimed, 'Have we come to this'".   In the American Revolution, Lafayette served as a major-general in the Continental Army under George Washington and apparently remained a noted celebrity for some time thereafter.

William and Rebecca Frame and their younger children first settled in Poland, OH around 1827 when William was around 51 years old and Rebecca about 52 and soon moved to neighboring Struthers, OH only a stones throw away.  Two years later in 1829 daughter Ruthanna would marry Billius Kirtland in Poland and Ruthanna's sister Mary would marry Marcellus Meacham in 1848.

I've run into nothing that indicates what William did for a living in Ohio but one could assume that he may have been an inn keeper.

Final Resting Place

William and Rebecca Frame both passed away in 1842 in Poland, OH, he on February 10 and she July 20.  He was 65 years old and she was 66.  The cause of death is unknown.

They are buried in the Riverside Cemetery in Poland, OH and share a monument with their daughter Ruthanna and her husband Billius Kirtland.   The Frame name prominently appears on one side of the monument and Kirtland on the other (not shown here).  There's a Geo. B. Marsh inscribed along William and Rebecca Frame who I assume was a brother of Rebecca's but I've not confirmed this.

The Mays inscriptions on the right are grand children of Billius and Ruthanna Frame-Kirtland who died young.


(GPS: NEAR N 41° 01.600’, W 080° 36.501’ - WGS84 Datum)